Holt Family History Secrets
Margaret Gramly speaks with her Mother, Allene Holt Gramly, and Aunt, Lucille Holt Andrew, about a family secret. Reverend Turner Hamilton Holt, father and grandfather, confided in his daughters about a secret Washington, D.C. meeting with Cordell Hull, Reverend Holt's cousin and Secretary of State to Franklin D. Roosevelt. According to the respected minister, Cordell Hull escorted the Reverend to the Capitol sub-baseemnt where the debris of an unidentified crash retrieval remained hidden from public view.
2002 SEALED AFFIDAVIT OF WALTER G. HAUT
December 26, 2002
(1) My name is Walter G. Haut
(2) I was born on June 2, 1922
(3) My address is 1405 W. 7th Street, Roswell, NM 88203
(4) I am retired.
(5) In July, 1947, I was stationed at the Roswell Army Air Base in Roswell, New Mexico, serving as the base Public Information Officer. I had spent the 4th of July weekend (Saturday, the 5th, and Sunday, the 6th) at my private residence about 10 miles north of the base, which was located south of town.
(6) I was aware that someone had reported the remains of a downed vehicle by midmorning after my return to duty at the base on Monday, July 7. I was aware that Major Jesse A. Marcel, head of intelligence, was sent by the base commander, Col. William Blanchard, to investigate.
(7) By late in the afternoon that same day, I would learn that additional civilian reports came in regarding a second site just north of Roswell. I would spend the better part of the day attending to my regular duties hearing little if anything more.
(8) On Tuesday morning, July 8, I would attend the regularly scheduled staff meeting at 7:30 a.m. Besides Blanchard, Marcel; CIC [Counterintelligence Corp] Capt. Sheridan Cavitt; Col. James I. Hopkins, the operations officer; Lt. Col. Ulysses S. Nero, the supply officer; and from Carswell AAF in Fort Worth, Texas, Blanchard's boss, Brig. Gen. Roger Ramey and his chief of staff, Col. Thomas J. Dubose were also in attendance. The main topic of discussion was reported by Marcel and Cavitt regarding an extensive debris field in Lincoln County approx. 75 miles NW of Roswell. A preliminary briefing was provided by Blanchard about the second site approx. 40 miles north of town. Samples of wreckage were passed around the table. It was unlike any material I had or have ever seen in my life. Pieces which resembled metal foil, paper thin yet extremely strong, and pieces with unusual markings along their length were handled from man to man, each voicing their opinion. No one was able to identify the crash debris.
(9) One of the main concerns discussed at the meeting was whether we should go public or not with the discovery. Gen. Ramey proposed a plan, which I believe originated from his bosses at the Pentagon. Attention needed to be diverted from the more important site north of town by acknowledging the other location. Too many civilians were already involved and the press already was informed. I was not completely informed how this would be accomplished.
(10) At approximately 9:30 a.m. Col. Blanchard phoned my office and dictated the press release of having in our possession a flying disc, coming from a ranch northwest of Roswell, and Marcel flying the material to higher headquarters. I was to deliver the news release to radio stations KGFL and KSWS, and newspapers the Daily Record and the Morning Dispatch.
(11) By the time the news release hit the wire services, my office was inundated with phone calls from around the world. Messages stacked up on my desk, and rather than deal with the media concern, Col Blanchard suggested that I go home and "hide out."
(12) Before leaving the base, Col. Blanchard took me personally to Building 84 [AKA Hangar P-3], a B-29 hangar located on the east side of the tarmac. Upon first approaching the building, I observed that it was under heavy guard both outside and inside. Once inside, I was permitted from a safe distance to first observe the object just recovered north of town. It was approx. 12 to 15 feet in length, not quite as wide, about 6 feet high, and more of an egg shape. Lighting was poor, but its surface did appear metallic. No windows, portholes, wings, tail section, or landing gear were visible.
(13) Also from a distance, I was able to see a couple of bodies under a canvas tarpaulin. Only the heads extended beyond the covering, and I was not able to make out any features. The heads did appear larger than normal and the contour of the canvas suggested the size of a 10 year old child. At a later date in Blanchard's office, he would extend his arm about 4 feet above the floor to indicate the height.
(14) I was informed of a temporary morgue set up to accommodate the recovered bodies.
(15) I was informed that the wreckage was not "hot" (radioactive).
(16) Upon his return from Fort Worth, Major Marcel described to me taking pieces of the wreckage to Gen. Ramey's office and after returning from a map room, finding the remains of a weather balloon and radar kite substituted while he was out of the room. Marcel was very upset over this situation. We would not discuss it again.
(17) I would be allowed to make at least one visit to one of the recovery sites during the military cleanup. I would return to the base with some of the wreckage which I would display in my office.
(18) I was aware two separate teams would return to each site months later for periodic searches for any remaining evidence.
(19) I am convinced that what I personally observed was some type of craft and its crew from outer space.
(20) I have not been paid nor given anything of value to make this statement, and it is the truth to the best of my recollection.
Signed: Walter G. Haut
December 26, 2002
Signature witnessed by:
Chris Xxxxxxx
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In response to an inquiry about unidentified crashes, Dr. Baker responds:
First off, I would say that anything is possible in such matters. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves.
But as far as any sort of flying wing involvement, I know of none, and I believe it would be unlikely. The big wings did not exist at that time--they did not fly until 1946 and 1947--and even if they had existed, they were way too big and way too distinctive to hide. When they ultimately did crash--one in 1948 and another in 1950--their demise was national news.
Which would leave some of the smaller, fighter-sized wings, which did exist in 1940 and after. But all of those are accounted for, even the then-secret ones, and in any event they were kept on pretty short leashes: they rarely left their southern California desert environs.
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Len Stringfield had told Charlette Mann's story but would not tell anybody where she was.
Some few years after his death, I asked Len's wife if she would provide contact information. She refused. She was saving Len's files for a grandchild who might be interested at some time in the future.
I started with the church in Cape Girardeau and eventually located people who had known Reverend Huffman, a copy of his obituary and then Charlette herself. She was most cooperative.
I also managed, with considerable effort, to locate the person to whom Charlette's father had loaned the picture that her grandfather had taken of the being. He was quite a mysterious guy. I passed that information to Ryan Wood who spoke with him in New Mexico.
Charlette has been filmed. I have no good reason, now, to doubt her story.
Lucille Holt Andrew
9/12/1921 - 9/19/2009
Lucille continued to work full time teaching piano and voice until her death. Lucille strongly believed she and her sister had an obligation to fulfill their father's request to make information about the Capitol sub-basement known long after he and Cordell were gone.
“We can be thankful that she took the time to write CUFOS as that allowed us to document the story as we know it so far. We owe Lucille our gratitude for opening up an important avenue of investigation into the history of this country’s handling of the UFO mystery".
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MUFON / State Director for Ohio
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Huffman Family History Secrets
Charlette Mann speaks of the secret Grandfather Reverend William Huffman shared with family. One spring Cape Girardeau evening in 1941, the Reverend received a call for assistance. Upon arrival to a crash site "13-15 miles or so" outside of Cape Girardeau, the Reverend found something extraordinary. The local military personnel on site swore all to secrecy because the object was of unknown origin. It was, according to the respected Baptist Reverend, a downed space ship–an alleged UFO.
Reverend
William Huffman
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